Hi Pete, Try this: ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/unstable/apps/KDE3.x/utils/PyKDE-3.3.2-rha3.1.tar.bz2 And while I'm here I'd like to thank you for your excellent SQL tutorial that is included in the PyQT distribution. It made it quite easy (and fun) for this newbie to get started. Peace, Ralph