[PyKDE] PyQwt win32 binary?

Scott Prive scottprive at earthlink.net
Wed Jan 31 06:42:51 GMT 2001


Matt Gerassimoff wrote:

> On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Phil Thompson wrote:
>
> > Scott Prive wrote:
> > >
> > > Phil Thompson wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > And does this mean the PyQt binary for windows won't be free in the
> > > > > > future?  Oh well, Tk it is then.
> > > > >
> > > > > I believe so, but I'd leave commenting on that to Phil and The Kompany. PyQt
> > > > > is the only I'll code for windows.  I find PyQt much more "intuitive" as a
> > > > > newcomer to GUI Toolkits than Tk.  I needed a book for my first Tk program,
> > > > > but only an article for writing my first using PyQt, so I'm hooked.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, I will no longer be producing a binary release of PyQt for Windows.
> > >
> > > Respectfully, I would ask "why"? I'm not sure  how many people use PyQT, but I
> > > suspect it is important to at least a few. The spirit of the answer is important.
> >
> > I'll try to answer this fully - don't read anything into it that isn't
> > there. These are my personal opinions, I'm not speaking for either
> > theKompany or Trolltech.
> >
> > There is no single reason for deciding not to continue to release a PyQt
> > binary for Windows. There were a number of influences over the
> > decision...
>
> You may say there is no single reason for not continuing the release of
> PyQt.  My guess:  you want to sell copies of Black Addr.  I wouldn't buy
> it if PyQt was available.  I'm not into IDE's that much.  You can make
> excuses and other reasons.  But in the end, it looks like you want to sell
> copies.

>  I remember when you posted the new of PyQt binaries for Windows.
> It seemed as thought TrollTech provided Qt for this.  Maybe I'm wrong but,
> that signifies to me that TrollTech was ok with it.  I would rather
> program in PyQt under linux.  It was nice to have the binaries.  I don't
> think it would be that difficult for you to continue to maintain the
> binaries.  Because you have to do it for Black Addr anyways.

I don't know about you, but I'll give the benefit of any doubt as it's HIS work to make
things available. The Windows version of PyQt being shelved is awful news. The reason
I started looking at PyQt is because it ran on both Linux and Windows. I'm not too
impressed with Tkinter's appearance, wxPython's lack of documentation (website mostly
"under construction"), or PyGTK (which in THEORY runs on Windows, but getting even
Gimp/Win32 to compile is painful).

>
> You probably should have never released in the first place if you had
> plans for Black Addr.  I think that was your mistake.

Even if Phil produces Qt .dll's for Black Adder and *chooses* not to distribute them in
PyQt, someone else can.

Of course, I doubt a new maintainer will appear and I seriously doubt that person would
get a free development license from Troll Tech to do so. I keep hearing one "could" port
the GPL'd UNIX Qt source into a GPL'd Windows .dll but that's a pipe dream.


> So cat got let out
> of the bag and now you want to bring it back.  You might have also got
> some users along the way.
>
> I won't be using PyQt to port anything to windows.  From the Black Addr
> FAQ page, it seems as though you closed everything else.  I'm not getting
> into the Microsoft payment schedule.  That's one reason I like
> Linux.  So what's next, closing sip? PyQt? PyKDE?  Maybe you'll stop
> developing KDE interfaces?
>
> It's starting to look a little fishy.

You can get your point across -- including disappointment -- in a more respectful
manner. I for one recognize when others contribute more than me...


>
>
> Matt
>
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